Also subs count less towards naval supremacy. And if this doesnt work, just reinstall the game, its not that big. For subs, create sub hunter fleets with 2-3 light cruisers per patrol fleet and 5-8 destroyers for the actual hunters. Task Force Admiral looks good. 2. gaoruosong • 3 yr. 2. Whenever you get air superiority spam nukes. Idk man, my dad can't swim. After this, is GB all about holding out until the USSR flips Germany upside the Head and the USA. Set you sub fleet to engage at high risk, medium repair priority and enable automatic split off. com] with the 'hourly change' value and the 'Base detection. Sports. 29. Go to hoi4 r/hoi4 • by. bwhite9 General of the Army • 7 yr. You could also use something like the tool pack mod to just give yourself some of the land. Sonar is litteraly useless on this ship as it can't attack submarines anyways. - Each naval region has a certain amount of superiority depending on the strength of each fleet. ago. Outside of a tank division as their own dedicated motorized. 386 votes, 29 comments. Polysci123 • 9 mo. As someone with 600 hours in HOI4 and a good understandung of the navy, dont bother. have like 10-20 of these in each task force for sinking. 2 comments. HOI4 needs a secondary Dev team (Custodian Team) with the mandate and resources to rework and improve old DLC and updates. 1- don't do any focus until you get 50 pp and immediately justify on poland. jontelover123 • 5 yr. . A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by…375K subscribers in the hoi4 community. ago. 17. Yay for cheapest interwar tank you can make for garrison (if you don't want to just use cav + captured rifles), nay for anything that gets deployed on the map. I swear every time I try to use paratroopers they give me a headache, the times where they simply wouldn't launch are more that the ones where they worked! CommanderEggnog • 2 min. Now there's only one way to basically play Japan for example. If you are going to ship troops stack your subs and hope for the best. ULTIMATE Submarine META PRO Guide - HOI4 Meta Navy Guide00:00 Subs!00:23 Why subs are broken01:36 Lets make a submarine04:09 Getting started07:44 Trade Inter. The Nova Politicus SMP is a realistic geopolitical/world building SMP where players are situated across the earth and make their own realistic countries. For division stats, the different modifiers are multiplicative. 1. Types of Ships. Add a fuel tank and you can sail into enemy waters and play havoc with supply lines. The size of a country’s submarine fleet in Hearts of Iron IV is determined by a number of factors, including the nation’s industrial capacity, technological level, and strategic doctrine. Whenever you get air superiority spam nukes. ago Sub 3s are very strong and need an enormous amount of effort to counter with airpower, radar, specially designed. Submarine spam 1-2 tank divisions. The variants are worth considering because you need less per battalion. Which makes them much more difficult to sink. ago. The long and short of it is heavy surface raiders are very easily countered by just adding more escorts to your convoys. The destroyer patrols that kill subs get absolutely manhandled by Cruisers. Best. They are really only useful for convoy-raiding and some niche fleet compositions. r/hoi4 • Is submarine spam enough to sink AI navy? See more posts like this in r/hoi4Since research times vary based on your trade policy, it's a little daunting to set up a universal equation, but here's what I came up with: (1-RRn)D = (1-RRi)D + (1-RRn)T. It's allowed me to destroy significant parts of any enemy navy with comparitively minor effort. r/hoi4. If you want to, subscribe!Link to Discord: to Steam G. r/hoi4 • When the Superior Firepower-cel say something so defensephobic you gotta hit them with the GBPChad stare. 1. Edit to link to my cut/paste. Terrains Combat Widths. g. 25 points worth of shore bombardment from naval fleet. Got back into HOI4 recently and this time around i'm really invested in learning and pushing for my first world conquest/win. There are 2 ways to use them. 1 more reply. 76. The USN has a large submarine component that includes many 1940 submarines with the raiding designer and trade interdiction techs. [deleted] • 4 yr. You trigger an order-of-battle file in which you create divisions as well as the template these divisions use. 12. If you go into tje equipment the enemy lost and hover over any particular piece, there'll be a pop up that says how much of it was captured. Business, Economics, and Finance. It might have been patched in the beta 1. The subs are also backed up by NAVs and heavy fighters operating from Manila. Due to submarines being nerfed in 1. Fleet in Being is just basic for surface fleets. So have some divisions at a port on your coast waiting, scout out the British coast with your fleet before you declare war, then drop the paratroopers on the island in a relatively weak spot and then get your army across the channel. 3. Destroyers have torpedoes 20% weaker than Light Cruisers and 1/3 the strength of Submarines. The brute-force answer. ViniciusSinged • 21 days ago. Task Force Admiral looks good. Rush the focuses: Revive the national bloc-laissez faire-economic devolution-protect rights of man-blum violet proposal-expand citizenship-encourage immigration-utilize the leagues-counsil of remboillet-revise the constitution and continue from there to the napoleon focuses. . Good enough. When my friend tries hosting and starts the. 849 votes, 36 comments. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game…Now before you declare war on Romania, stack some of your puppets divisions along your fronts lines if you feel your army is inferior but ensure your lines are also capable of pushing up. 9. You'll achieve more with planes at sea, so build planes, and don't build dockyards. 6th Flotilla Took 20+ enemies To Davy Jones. Greatest HOI4 post of all time. 203. g Banana Empire Panama taking over Mexico. 6. . This could simply be because of a difference in hardware. Not a huge savings but one that adds up. 1. I've got to 100% autonomy, yet it wouldnt let me break free cause i havent taken the focus to abandon westminster. Yes, you can select the British Raj and have a fascist or communist coup. 1. Even then, at any given level of production, you're making 18% more DEs, making about 6 escorts per 5 fleet destroyers. ago. 26K subscribers Subscribe 963 24K views 1 year ago This video serves as an easy to get into guide regarding. I made a couple thousand fighter jets in my first full game. So have some divisions at a port on your coast waiting, scout out the British coast with your fleet before you declare war, then drop the paratroopers on the island in a relatively weak spot and then get your army across the. hold the Suez, Singapore, and retake Ethiopia. Generalfaster • 1 hr. Report. Last game I tried building a navy by spamming destroyers, cruisers and grouping them with capitals as well as submarine spam. like all HoI4 combat navy can be min-maxed, and if that's. If you don't like planes like me, you can build Sub 3's with full torpedoes with level 1 snorkel and full engine, put them on 20-30 wolfpacks and put them on always engage, even better make sub 4's with full torpedoes,. There are too few motorized, you should always aim to always have 30-40 org on your tank templates. Its a pretty good expansion of the base game. Then the torp destroyers kill enemy caps. However, if I’m playing as a minor nation like Romania or Hungary, for example, I usually only produce fighters and will keep a 3:1 ratio of guns to planes. ago. Research_all I think. bwhite9 General of the Army • 4 yr. If you spam subs, you will loose your manpower and uwilt your dockyards to something that you will loose anyways. Best. Idk if it's because of enemy intel or his divisions on the front. How to use submarines properly. Yeah, best way as France to get to the British mainland is to land LOTS of paratroopers as soon as you can and get to a port quickly. Long range submarine patrols, and similar mine laying operations are my first two choices. k. 0 unless otherwise noted. Use naval bombers. Given this purpouse it shouldn't have engineers, recon or military. Win. You can get away with a card that only has 1 Gb of VRAM. Naval supremacy of ship = 100. 765. If you want to play naval 4 Carriers and a bunch of Dads should do the trick. Valheim Genshin Impact Minecraft Pokimane Halo Infinite Call of Duty: Warzone Path of Exile Hollow Knight: Silksong Escape from Tarkov Watch Dogs: Legion. I quickly redeploy it's troops. For it to work you may also have to delete the mod folders and unsubscribe. Hoi4 has been making the game more realistic as the game progresses, so why not this. The ai always goes scraping the barrel just to shit out 7/2 infantry divisions. 80% of the game is out the door using such methods, I mean no CZE, no YUG, those alone have trees that can massively change the possible. The thing this division is good at is attacking heavy defenses, realistically to soften it up before a armored breakthrough. Air superiority helps with naval superiority which helps spotting. Some vague answers: Germany has an advisor that gives +10% naval range. Thinking_waffle Research Scientist • 4 yr. gaoruosong • 3 yr. C. This thread is archived. Reply seesaww •. For your all around infantry template you can go 7 infantry, 2 artillery, support art, engineer, recon, support anti. Sub 3s, Light attack spam, torpedo screen spam, etc. DD and Naval Bomber spam. The only thing that worked was restarting my computer. 80 years ago today was 'A date that will live in infamy' At 7. heavy attack spam is. ago. I also agree with the advice of researching 1944 tech for Engines IV, but continue to use the 1940 frame. One spot I know of to look for this is in the theater results screen. I'm trying to imagine the submarine shooting down airplanes while simultaneously sinking 4 ships. angry-mustache • 7 yr. Fingers crossed. Click to. Then this will then evenly distribute the armies over the from the line. Also, go for bigger divisions (40, 42 or 45 width) when on offense due to focusing and attack to defense ratios. As we all know ships in Hoi4 have been completely changed the old "rock-paper-scissors" system of pre MTG naval combat, e. More armor/piercing, more hardness, more hard attack, slightly more soft attack, defense, and breakthrough. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game…I would nominate the Netherlands (who starts with a respectable navy albeit far from that of a major) and Portugal, for the second if you go royalist and recover Brasil you have the base to build a navy. Most of the time as a major if I have a full line (15 factories) working on rifles I will also have a full line for both fighters and CAS. The sub thing is especially frustrating. It is the most efficient in responding to the escort needs of convoys and in anti-submarine warfare. 225. Submarines aren't usually able to sink ships. Then, when I invaded the Soviet Union later in the game, I got Leningrad, got Vichy France to transfer control of the state of Stalingrad to me, made sure all states were fully owned by me, then I used console commands to make Ile de France mine for a little bit so I could proclaim the Greater German Reich. Like I hate that in order to properly organize your navy you have to regroup all the ships to fleets named task force one, task force two and so on. lancefighter • 4 yr. If you have 10 or more than 10 dockyards, you can disporbicya very decent. 2- start preparing (or just pump divs out) to make a lot of divisions to rush anschluss. This still sucks so hard compared to submarines. I can't remember if the Raj starts democratic or not, so you may also be able to have a Democratic coup to create India. dont know about anti air but anti tank seemed fairly usefull as attachments to infantry. Firebombing killed more in Japan than the nukes yet two firebombing raids didn't make them surrender. I'm using airbases in Turkey, and am ready to paradrop soldiers in, but I don't to do it, just to get overrun after running out of supply in a few days. IMHO, there's no reason to build CV if you're just operating in the Med because you can fully cover all of the sea zones with land-based aircraft. Lose form the Franco British Union then do the. it's light cruisers that destroy screens a. More time and QA. Inside a tank division to help maintain the speed of light or mesium tanks, and boosting org, hp, and defense. Join my discord:. Ok, definitely gonna look into that tomorrow. dishhawkjones • 2 yr. They can also function as independent tank divisions. I just tried to reload older save files and tag to the Nationalist Spain, apparently Enrique Lister despite having stalinist loyalty and don't have trait Nationalist sympathizer decided to become a Nationalist generals, and when SCW end he can't join because he got pulled to the nationalist. I recently watched Hammotimes beginner series and in his Navy video he mentions a "sub spam" method in which you produce a load of T1 subs and leave them on convoy raiding with auto repair etc. Or there is a meta going around where people spam cheap destroyers with a large amount of torpedo's on it. ago. But as tech scales up, that gap widens. I've never tried cloud save but Ironman save can be corrupted easily if you forcefully quit the game. I'm put a week aside to fully mod the UI to swedish. Alica90 Air Marshal • 6 yr. Content is available under Attribution-ShareAlike 3. In HOI4, light cruisers destroy everything on the water, and aircraft destroy everything period (land, water, whatever). Naval Bombers are the fastest and most cost efficient way early on. Perhaps whatever nation you are does as well? Higher level naval hulls give higher range. In the end airforce >>>>> all in HOI4. ago. Delete the units. Their main purpose is to keep damage from capital ships. I know monarchist and Franco spain. ago. I play as Germany and war is about to break out in 1939. In this short tutorial esque guide I will show how the current best way to counter the Axis sub spam, as the Allies (specifically the United Kingdom). Looks like. Countries mostly license production to research their own fighter 2s and they'll. Their counter is Battle Cruisers. txt event 27) (uh if youre looking for specific. Anti-Air II. I find the cruiser submarine available via "U-boat effort" focus to be quite good at enforcing a blockade sufficiently far from Britain. ago. Just want to know how honestly. The air war is a crucial part of winning any Hoi4 game. [deleted] • 7 yr. 82. 10. You can also do a double motorized for even more supply but you’ll eat your trucks doing it. ago. Trade Interdiction makes ur surface fleets & subs be less visible to the enemy navy so ambushes are more efficient and running away is easier + u can raid convoys efficiently. Television. If you're looking for a competent surface fleet to fight other ships with, the basics is cheap DD with good engine and some torpedoes, and heavy cruisers loaded down with light attack. So i assume that causes the fake divisions to disappear. Yes but for other countries that aren’t japan. When the war begins, there's obviously many things to produce at the same time. But in places where you can build radar on land, just have the naval bombers hunt the subs because it's faster to find them with the radar. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by…Agreed. 299k members in the hoi4 community. Yup, I have an ongoing game as the anarchists where the axis became unofficial allies while I fought the real Allies. You should always add exactly one float plane catapult to all of your capitals. [deleted] • 7 yr. If you have 100 base attack, with 10% bonus from commander and 25% bonus from veterancy, your unit would have 137. Combat widths allowable are dictated by terrain type. k. They're more for convoy raiding. [deleted] • 7 yr. Top posts of April 5,. Its a pretty good expansion of the base game. It's the meta for a reason. AT is there to counter the immediate armor attack in MP you face after landing. 25 Duodecillion minimal Battalion templates. Delta974 • 4 yr. In regular war you need to kill pockets in order to keep your XP level. Thank you. 11. 1 comment. The other thing you could do is. You cant get resources from Resource Prospecting Decisions but that's only for certain states, you can build synethic refineries which gives you rubber and oil, or you can get resources from certain focuses (but that's rare). If you go on naval view you can hover your cursur over naval regions and see how many ships are in the area. If that is not the problem, check the total weight of your divisions and see if they can all be used in a transport plane. Also spam some naval bombers and put them in the attack english channel mode. Overrun happens when your troops start a retreat into friendly territory, but before their move finishes, the territory changes hands to the enemy, giving them nowhere valid to retreat to. Good light cruisers are excellent uses of. ago. ago. I personally divide my subs into 5 groups and set each group a target strength of 20. Will 10-0s push well enough? I noticed it’s very difficult for me to get and keep a solid foothold in China and keep pushing. But If You cant find an Command for this in the Wiki i cant help You ( sry for that Bad english)submarine: ×10 capital ship: ×50 carrier: ×200 The weight of damaged ships gets increased by up to +500% as they approach 0% HP. SS Submarine – cheap, slow, limited loadout options; SS Cruiser Submarine – cheap, unique to a few countries, slow, special loadout options. The Spanish civil war is the only place I actually try to get level 5 divs. 10. Having air superiority is super important for spotting and battle. 56. this is good but don't spam these as screens. So I wonder if there are any mods that bring a bit more flavour, like more mission, traits, upgrades, smt like that?The guide, which you can find easily if you google "what are the best combat widths for hoi4" , mistakenly averages the best combat widths for each terrain, which in turn suggests combat widths that are actually bad in every terrain. Fargel_Linellar • 1 mo. Pretty useless for naval combat. Specialized destroyers and naval bombers should do the trick. You do need a graphics card but it doesn't need to be very good. The next Update is gonna kill the light attack heavy cruiser meta and the submarine spam meta is gonna get nerfed hard Wait untill the new metas were figured out (my bet is the return of the light attack light cruiser)1. It was the first time AI France goes fascist in my game, probably because they get destroyed early on in most games, leaving them without a government to change. But this is a paradox-wide quality problem right now, probably an issue of budget or management or something, so it's hard for me to lay blame on the HoI4 team. In my honest and humble opinion, if you want to spam ships which are quickly build, go for one of these. Best Naval doctrine is spamming naval bombers. Spam divisions/planes. 8K subscribers Subscribe 2. New and Improved HOI4 Meme thread - Post your memes here. classteen • Fleet Admiral • 2 yr. It's the meta for a reason. Sirrestrikk • 4 yr. Total noob question here. Just using the best templates won’t be enough to win every battle. r/hoi4. HOI4 isn’t working for me. These divisions were unable to fight 2 Australian infantry divisions while being entrenched. They serve the same ultimate purpose, destroyers are 2-3x faster and can disengage a lot easier without casualties, can spot far better, etc. Current issue is that the subs are literally too fast for the destroyers to fight so they do. Any of the same modifier will stack additively, so in your example of 10% output + 20% output, you'd have 30% output. 3. 8. The reason for submarine spamming in game and in history iis because they were cheap. I have played against sub 3 spam and don't find it any different or that much harder to kill than sub 2's. Last game I tried building a navy by spamming destroyers, cruisers and grouping them with capitals as well as submarine spam. For every 1 point in Sub Detection you get +1,8% Chance of finding the enemy Submarine. Easy, cheap, and effective. Unfortunately, your choices are to either stay at speed 4 (which is still pretty fast), or upgrade your aystem. . Quick question does the cabinet slide work on that one or is it the modWay to go Paradox. 2) I don't think the AI is sweeping mines. 363K subscribers in the hoi4 community. Subs are the best scouts, best convoy raiders, and best minelayers. 666. A few factories each guarantee air superiority in china When the war against begins hold northern front and constant push if possible even if slowIt's not like it's hard to get naval superiority in HOI4 but rather that it's too easy. In November, we hit our favourite milestone to date; 1 MILLION ACTIV. Same thing with air wings, although admittedly I don't really know how to organize those in HOI4 either. Screens are almost completely worthless. I have a task force of about 50 sub 2s which have a range of 4000km. 6% better. I don't get supremacy and neither win naval battles to weaken the enemy. It always shows 0% but the game does calculate in this part Sub Visibility vs Sub Detection. ago. Deep. Otherwise, you have to conquer or trade for resources, like steel. ago. I'm not sure if the same rules apply here in Darkest Hour. If you get instagibbed, tough luck, it's called a game, we shouldn't railroad with 40 pages of rules which have to be modified after each game because after each game one can find something that's "unfair". If you don't like planes like me, you can build Sub 3's with full torpedoes with level 1 snorkel and full engine, put them on 20-30 wolfpacks and put them on always engage, even better make sub 4's with full torpedoes, level 2 snorkels and full engine, put on. Something like this happens in the Chinese Civil war too. I've been playing HOI4 since it's release date in 2016. THey killed 500 man and the island garrison capitulated with 12000 POWs after losing only 200 of their own. Also flanking and encirclement. Please remember to follow all forum rules. 125 IC 2Steel 1Chromium, which puts its IC/HP ratio at ~18. Destroyers have very weak naval guns, while Light cruiser guns are at least good for killing Destroyers. ago. ago. No navy except maximum submarine spam. on resubscription it will be reupdated and dl the mods again. For example convoys have only 0. 25) attack after modifiers. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by…It is the most efficient in responding to the escort needs of convoys and in anti-submarine warfare. Though designs will help you a lot, you will also need to know a bit about how naval warfare works in HOI4 if you want to win. For example, we already have ideological factions, where anyone of the appointed ideology can join the faction. I'm not sure if the same rules apply here in Darkest Hour. At 1936 level, the DE costs 1100 and the DD costs 1300. CA is a screen hunter to counter DD or CL spam and can't reasonably combat capital ships. Mid 1. Great War Mod Cant Find Research For Some Technology. On infantry 40 widths you can go 12-4-4 inf-art-AA with support AA and you'll take no penalty. 17 Badges. After the 5th their org should be down enough to run over. The Bismarck and Tirpitz failed, but the Graf Spee was very successful for 4 months of unchecked convoy raiding. 7-2 ide say don’t used, just go pure infantry with shovels and artillery support companies, 14-4s are still good. Research torpedoes and radars. Other naval ship terms: CA: heavy cruiser BC: battlecruiser BB: battleship CV: aircraft carrier SS: submarine Light cruisers are generally referred to cruisers with guns no larger than 6” caliber. Hard meta is a mix of cheap roach destroyer screens with good engines and only one gun, torpedo destroyers, and light attack light cruisers. Destroyers have torpedoes 20% weaker than Light Cruisers and 1/3 the strength of Submarines. Submarines OP. If your carrier is sitting in a port or in a sea zone with no mission, then you can select the air. 3. The investment and the payoff are well worth the cost of protection so before you spam a carrier fleet, make sure it’s got support. Naval bombers are good to do most of the sinking. Should you have only part of them your paratroopers should. In reality it is an order of magnitude cheaper to move freight by sea and river than by rail. Playing the UK in a multiplayer game, it's 1944 and the German Navy has been pumping out more than 10 submarines a month it seems. This becomes a problem because laptops have inherently weaker processors. That Screen is bugged. "Carrier Battles" is a good game series about Carrier fighting. Dreadnoughts meta leaking into hoi4. The year is 1953 and I am still waiting for the AI to make any attempt of a naval invasion so I can nuke my own core territory and unlock the achievement. Instead, they provide a pittance. 2. The AI just doesn't have to do much by comparison in other Paradox titles. Heavy tanks are good for fighting other tanks, like lights or mediums or other heavies. -Spam NAVs -Win If something needs to be more realist, is the plane system: no IRL plane had 1:1 Thrust-Weight ratio. They are really only useful for convoy. variants) that can be produced by dockyards. People make tubs first and then refit it with the guns on it. 9 Avalanche). Very few focus tree mods are good imo, they are often times super overpowered. I make offensive units high supply and defenders low supply, but that's just my recommendation, you can play differently. 12, spamming subs is no longer a viable option for fleet-building. Below water, obviously, is submarine spam.